Still, if you don’t like the sound of it, making your own is a reasonable solution. I guess it all depends of the law. wow. I feel that we are all beings that must do our part and help one another when we can. I’ll stop there. Alright then. Great article. This is interesting to know. Interesting article but here’s where I get, well, ” STEAMED “, no matter WHAT we eat or drink, somebody finds fault with it. For anyone, whether diabetic or not, prove to yourself this health care professional is either mistaken or lying… you do NOT have to “trust” scientists or doctors or anyone else… you can do the experiment yourself. The conversion of two or more elements, such as sodium and chlorine, to a chemical compound, sodium chloride, is an example of a chemical change, often called a chemical reaction. Another big reason to boycott Tropicana, Florida’s Natural, Simply Orange is over their corporate greed. After all, how can one go wrong drinking 100% natural juice with ‘nothing added’? Creamy Mexican Cheese Dip — Without Velveeta! Why is it permissible for companies not to be restricted from including “saw dust” in the bread that is made for me! (Even if that “plan” is just writing down everything you eat and keeping track of calories) Once you’ve retrained yourself to consume less and exercise portion control, life gets easier. I don’t know how other juices are processed, only that after this I wouldn’t be surprised to discover something equally as disturbing. If you want REAL FOOD, make it out of oranges. The real reason the orange juice always tastes the same is because they process so much of it, they can mix it all together and get a consistent taste. You can use sesame seed as a source of high amounts of calcium. What do you think of Pomegranted Juice? JOIN US! I doubt these aromas are dangerous & I think my kids would totally reble if I stopped buying it altogether, its cost effective & stores well but its another reason for me to find a way to buy a Vitamix! if concentrated juice is just the actual juice with the water taken out and then put back in it actually seems more natural to me than the process described in the post. Thank You for the article and insight. 15 , it was observed that pH, total acidity and soluble solids of the orange juice were similar to those found in the literature, which were 3.54, 1.23 g/100 mL and 10 °Brix, respectively. Thanks for posting this. Both minerals are extremely essential for body functioning. These soluble solids include numerous organic and inorganic compounds. There is real food. Love to here your thoughts, Lorelei. I eat several times a day and have never eaten grass yet! thanks for giving me one more weapon to add to my list, which i will use whenever i will tell someone why using things directly from nature is a good thing , >> “A remeber reading an article on harmful effects of soap and why we really dont need it.”. Just look at the fruit juice labels. Liz Leona Kadri Gonzagowski via Facebook says. Or a study that was conducted that determined a massive decrease in the amount of formaldehyde required for embalming bodies since the introduction of plastic as containers for food and liquids (formaldehyde naturally leeches out of the plastic and into the food/drink substance over time). it wasn’t like this when i was growing up. I suggest adding water to the juice to dilute it, (gradually increasing the ratio of water to juice) as well as providing alternatives as Ann Marie suggested. H2O is water and H2O2 is deadly. If a gallon sits in the fridge for a month after opening it and doesn’t grow anything in it, well, that isn’t really food. BUT, everyone has the right to make informed choices about what they put in their body. It’s shocking to learn than fruit juice is no better than a soda. Honestly, it’s a steal at $5.99 for a half gallon. If you want to REALLY understand the process go to and read what the actual process is without all the scary allusions. In the summer, my son loves to make fresh squeezed lemon aid. They are woefully short-staffed, with frequent reliance on industry data for product releases (only going after bad guys when a threshold of deaths/diseases has been crossed) and the people who run the agency are a who’s who of the industries the agency is supposed to be regulating. And what if AB is essential? Seriously, of all the parenting choices you can pick on – juice needs to be a whole heck of a lot lower on the list. Orange juice is Liquid Candy as far as I’m concerned. I might just start buying the concentrated organic oj at Trader Joe’s instead, just to be safe. I use food grade citric acid to clean our water distiller and it removes all build up deposits in minutes (that you woudn’t be able to clean by hand). She earned a Bachelor of Arts (summa cum laude) from Dallas Baptist University in Philosophy and Biblical Studies, then began her post-graduate journey as a researcher in the fields of health and nutrition. lol. Many recent studies have reflected nutritional benefits of coffee, but whether other things are worse is irrelevant to the topic at hand – hidden chemicals and manufacturing process of OJ. The vitamin C is gone. Just because something is “processed” doesn’t mean it’s bad. Before Adam sinned, all food was perfect for his body. I decided to get Tropicana, because it appeared to have the best kind of calcium. Granted, not many, but in my opinion it isn’t worth it. And if you have issues with ‘altered’ food, that’s all well and good. I remember when they first came out. Would it be too paranoid to consider the notion that perhaps the grocery store is not our friend? Go ahead. A mix? 3. I don’t think the fiber in fruits and veggies are at all good for people so I will use my juicer for make fresh juice. to check out new stuff you post…. Water is a chemical. Any tips would really help. I have a question… If these orange juice is not as natural as they are claimed, do I get as much vitamin and nutritional values claimed in the labels? We are still a fast-food loving nation for the worst if you ask anyone in our family. And finally, opt out of the industrial food system as much as you can. But I don’t drink them every day and I certainly don’t think if my margarita as a healthful drink. Once or twice it didn’t taste very good; I guess the oranges just weren’t as good that time of year. Having the juice is such large vats that is required for large scale production is also going to yield a much more consistent flavor. Want to make juicing easier? The author lost all credibility when she touts grass fed beef (much more gamey, tough, and less nutritious than grain fed) and organics which are just manure soaked, salmonella chocked, overpriced foods for stupied city people. chemically manipulated that they hardly qualify as ‘by-products’ any more.” (source) Since they’re made I am just getting into trying to eat REAL food but this just disgusts me …. All the things they add to it. Thank you. Your comment about being unable to imagine us EVER going back to seasonal foods barring a major shift in the way our society thinks about food – I can easily imagine us going back to a seasonal, local food supply, and not by choice. They don’t waste a damn thing. All of this had me wondering how ‘all natural juice’ purchased at the store can last a month or more. There are a lot of people who, because of gastrointestinal ailments, colostomies, ileostomies, and other ailments, cannot eat fruit or can only eat certain kinds. Very interesting information, thanks for the article. We drink no juice either, sometimes treat ourselves to locally pressed fresh apple cider in the fall, but this just blew my mind! Until we actually tackle the real issues of the fucked up FDA and its bullshit low standards towards our foods livestock. In fact I’d argue that we’re in a situation where that type of assumption is completely wrong. We are ever changing and so is information. As the years went by, the more I gave, the more he took. This is not the dictionary definition of natural! Well, to them I say — I AM AFRAID OF CHEMICALS. Love the post! Go take a hike in the woods and eat some POISON BERRIES and drink some nice fresh SPRING WATER with animal, bird, bug and fish dukey in it. And by the way, it tastes a million times better than pasteurized homogenized milk. How do you think we got to the size we are today? I didn’t drink much juice before I learned of this process a few years ago I certainly don’t drink it now. I’m thinking Johnnie Walker vs single malts here. But, many people argue the following: if it’s a natural compound, we have millions of years to say that it’s probably reasonably healthy. Simple! Yes, it’s not the same as a glass of fresh squeezed that you made yourself. People fear what they do not understand. The important group of compounds, from the winemaking point of view, include the following: 1. sugars 2. organic acids 3. phenolic compounds 4. nitrogenous compounds It was the Coca Cola Company, owner of the Minute Maid brand, that alerted the FDA that their orange juice and that of their competitors carried residues of the chemical, the New York Times reports. According to Ayurveda the fruit starts to lose it’s good qualities 15min after being cut. For one thing, you cite other blogs, bastions of insight into the food industry and completely unbiased, as your sources. While it’s true that the mixing of liquids in giant vats does make the flavor more homogenous, I still think the point stands, particularly when we talk about drinking orange juice when oranges are well out of season. I had always found orange juice lacking, and now I understand why. But, in the long run, freshly juicing an apple or orange, even if it gives you the equivalent of two or three sugar cubes, won’t give you a highly processed, chemically-treated, condensed and granulated product like we find most of our sucrose as. All juice is different and you simply blend high sugar juice with low sugar juice and your flavor packs as you call them are nothing more that essential oils that naturally exist in the juice. Orange juice contain a plant pigment called ‘hesperidin’ that is beneficial for overall the smooth functioning of blood vessels thereby helps in balancing of blood pressure and good for cardiovascular diseases. An experiment that uses a control. In fruits and veggies, it is not the nutrition that is different (organic, grass-fed meats and animal products DO have demonstrably more nutrients, lower fat/cholesterol, etc), but it’s rather what you are NOT getting with your fruits and veggies that make organics superior. What is left is a milky-white sugar water which is pumped into million gallon storage tanks, where it sits for up to 1 year, awaiting am order for orange juice. I’m cool with them doing that, but would have preferred to know that this was how it was “not from concentrate.” I feel duped, that these producers have veiled their process in “happy words.” But we all should remember that marketing is merely the happy mask that goes over the legal department’s stony face. But that still didn’t answer the question of HOW they made it less. Go back and re-read that article about “DHMO”, only this time read it in the knowledge that what is being described is WATER. “If I’m describing you, then you’re either going to hate me or love me by the time you’re done reading this post. His salary was trimmed to 39,00 per year; I recently became unemployed. Do you even realize that food IS chemicals? But you can casually throw back a cup of apple juice, and you would probably be willing to return for seconds. But we have not similar “nutrition” meter to tell us when food “science” is full of crap. In general, to prevent lows in reactive hypoglycemia, you must prevent the overreaction of the pancreas by slowing the absorption of carbohydrate. . Have you tried using the Facebook share button on this page, under the “Sharing is Rebellious” tag line? Do you know of any that are good and trustworthy? NO flavor packs, no special company to make a pack to artificially flavor your OJ. Aren’t you funny? Commercial production of orange juice includes the peel in the juicing process, and these compounds are present in 100% juice. The easy answer is, there is no chemical formula for orange juice. True about fruit juices but juicing vegetables gives you far more of their micronutrients than eating them. Depending on the type of orange juice, it may be a mixture of many different things such as water (H20), glucose (C6H12O6), citric acid (C6H8O7) and trace amounts of minerals. My biggest beef is not even that the companies add the chemicals/flavor/other ingredients, it’s that they try to disguise them. They may come at you with torches and pitchforks! Real, raw milk comes out of the cow and goes into the jug. If you think drinking copious amounts of orange juice bought from the shop is healthy, think again. Y'know, when it would be faster and cheaper to just make a "fresh orange breakfast beverage." Especially the flavor part learning that it is made from an Orange initially. However, my parents cannot seem to accept the advice I give them on food and beverages, so they still buy a lot of juice (and a million other things I don’t approve of). Now i feel i have been cheated..y do these good for nothing companies fool us. The documents are full of points such as this, but you have to do more that just read a few paragraphs on a blog to fully understand. Sometimes we put frozen blueberries into water like ice cubes or other fun things. OJ has lots of vitamin C and keeps people from getting ill. Can’t see what’s so unhealthy about that. It is vital for each and every consumer to research each product on their own, because governmental safeguards for both food and medicine have been absolutely corrupted. I don’t eat any refined sugar, and only the occasional low glycemic fruit. DOI: 10.1016/j.foodres.2015.06.020. Some have a small apartment and not the time to cook 3 means a day. Silicone. There’s no other way to keep unconcentrated orange juice without it spoiling besides de-aeration, and de-aerated juice needs to have flavoring added back into it in order for it to be palatable. Your description of the De-aerating process of the “squeezed raw material”(Oranges) is correct and serves a few purposes one being and as mentioned that “Concentrate” is stored in large holding tanks and then taken by tankers to the processing facilities. But most everyone else will throw it away. We are so spoiled, and it’s too bad. Since you are probably a useless hippie, you’ll compost it. I learned about one of these plants that make flavors and the chemicals used to make them, its really scary stuff! Vitamix’s are expensive, but they are worth every little penny. If you want convenience and a reliable product, buy orange juice. These soluble solids include numerous organic and inorganic compounds. This is called plagiarism and would result in a Fail in my class. I am just curious….Do those of you commenting research the information posted to verify the authenticity or do you just blindly believe everything the author writes? I am 73yo. Decades ago, juice USED to be served in little 2-4 oz glasses, so it wasn’t quite the sugar/carb hit a big glass is today. The reality is much more complicated and subtle than your basic assumption. Please explain to me what exactly these “chemicals” do to our body. There’s no way for Walmart to sell safe raw milk, too many people handle milk before it gets to the grocery. Vitamins are chemicals. A couple things came to mind. Oranges, along with all citrus fruits, are a special type of berry botanists refer to as a hesperidium. “The fact is that the “industrial food system” in this country is the only reason why we’re not starving or dying of pathogens. Get a cheapo bG meter from Walmart or Walgreens. FLUORIDE! I don’t understand how anyone can possibly be so naive about corporations in a world where Kraft Foods owns Phillip Morris… COURSE they want to harm kids, why else would you sell Velveeta and Marlboros? I always prefer the higher priced butters but can’t afford them. The labeling isn’t misleading; it’s just not what you want to see or hear. or make them obese. Things from local farmers (try to find a farmer’s market in your area) and things you grow or make yourself. But, it comes down to us. And we don’t keep any foods in the refrigator to eat the next day. Wish people would wake up and realize what is going on with their food. It is stored in tanks or drums until we package it for the stores. So, inversely, regular orange juice would only have 100 calories and 8% RDA of carbs. Eggs are not “processed” by putting them in a carton or basket and apples are not “processed” when you pick them from a tree and take a bite. I am so thankful for this forum, for the real food bloggers, the holistic medicine forums, the politics of food/med bloggers….This is actually an isolating life to lead for many since having an entire family on board may be rare but as long as I have a community to retreat too, one that educates responsibly and lives by example, that’s enough to keep me going. Maybe it’s easier to make flavor packs for juice that taste like juice. The more natural kind? I would imagine all juices would need this type of process described to prevent this from happening on the store shelves. Second best (and more practical for many, including myself) is to pay somebody I trust to do it — like the farmers at my Farmer’s Market, the cattle rancher I buy my annual grass-fed beef order from, or the chef at my local restaurant who’s willing to transparently answer questions about how he sources ingredients and what goes into the dish I’m ordering. So every now and then, we all have juice with dinner instead of water. As for those negative/critical comments accusing you of being afraid of science, sadly, many people don’t want to believe or even know this kind of thing because they want to believe their ‘processed’ product is really good so they can feel guiltless about ingesting it. Today, my three kids are grown, at a healthy weight, with a balanced approach to drinking sugar. I haven’t had any in probably 10 years. In this example copper rod and iron rod are the electrodes and the orange juice is … It’s sad that so much of the food industry is processed and industrialized, but it’s been going on for a long time, so I’d assume it will take a much longer time to see changes in the future. The predominant fraction consists of hydrocarbons, of which one single compound, d-limonene, accounts for more than 90% of the total aroma fraction. Chemicals with a pH lower than 7 down to 0 are considered acids.The closer the pH is to 0 or 14, the greater its acidity or basicity, respectively. I don't really know. It is delicious! If we don’t even know what is in factory-made orange juice, how are we to comprehend what is in other food products? From:”Susan McLean” The government is NOT here to protect us!!! Popular types … All there was… was food. If we don’t drink the fresh juice right away & put it in the refrigerator, it starts to break down, separate and tastes different later. Have you ever considered using a black font? I hardly drink juice so it doesn’t bother me that much, but if I was avoiding all chemical additives for an allergy I can understand being very upset that my “all-natural orange juice” had chemical additives. Yeah…not going to stop. Senators and members of congress to demand change as well as contacting these companies as well to also let them know word of mouth will spread fast through social media to boycott all of their products. not dangerous? Most of us do not have berry patches either. The OJ Process…..once a batch of OJ is blended with the predetermined formulated amounts of OJ, oil(flavor), essence(smell) and water. Good job!!!! It is a shock to many upon and thousands of people in knowing the “truth” behind where and how our food and drink comes from and how it is process! You go to a crack addict tell them it’ll cause death, they go back to it anyway. Thanks so much for this post. Sigh! be the problem ? I’m so sorry about the money aspect of it though. . For many years the U.S. has been known for having the highest cancer rates in the world, so this leads many of us to question USA standards for food additives, drinking water quality, and air quality safety. (Or at least, eat it sparingly as a “treat.”) Our bodies did not evolve in a world in which chemicals that have been invented in a lab were prevalent, and by and large, we do not metabolize them well. A term in my opinion used loosely as an advertising gimmick by many companies to dupe us into believing false-hoods about their products It seems to me that Americans are still proving our Nation to be a fast-food loving people and food additives tricks are in fact working. In fact, it may be coming to us sooner than most people think – we went through major supply disruptions this past winter for fruits and fresh produce here in South Dakota. When not broken by unnaturally high glucose levels, the body maintains a balance between water and the relative levels of sodium and potassium in the blood ; the hormones aldosterone (an adrenal hormone) and vasopressin (a pituatary hormone) control this tightly in a healthy body. MSG contains only sodium, not chloride.. Our bodies do not expect this and so continue to crave salty items no matter how much MSG or sodium there is, causing the body to receiver too much sodium and not enough chloride, which can have extremely toxic effects. I have found this to be true even though I should already know what I’m doing, having done it before. BUT they buy everything else at the grocery store and try to make the best decisions they can with what the store carries. I did a blind-tasting for a group of friends between fresh-squeezed and a high-dollar packaged brand and everyone was stunned at how superior the fresh stuff was. So I will get my vitamin C by eating an orange every other day by peeling slicing it to eat. LOVE your posts and your FB page! This was well thought out and presented, unlike some of the other articles I’ve read on the topic. Is there any *evidence* to believe that this stuff is harmful? Unfortunately, I see that often But… you have to press forward. But all these people saying juice in general is bad for you? So they give you less food, more packaging, and charge you more for it? CARBONATED WATER, HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP, CONCENTRATED ORANGE JUICE, CITRIC ACID, NATURAL FLAVOR, SODIUM BENZOATE (PRESERVES FRESHNESS), CAFFEINE, SODIUM CITRATE, ERYTHORBIC ACID (PRESERVES FRESHNESS), GUM ARABIC, CALCIUM DISODIUM EDTA (TO PROTECT FLAVOR), BROMINATED VEGETABLE OIL, YELLOW 5 [sic] [ 1] … Because they’re “chemically manipulated”? Sad testament as to the state of our food industry…as bad as our Drug industry….where there is a buck to be taken, there are many waiting to take it from you…. “Chemicals” can be good or bad, depending on what you are talking about. So much for that , what in the usa is not processed ?!? I agree with Croc, you have thought it out so you should find ways to x out small grocery store items that you can live without or replace at a local farmer’s market or health food store. Thanks. Hmm, I guess your confidence in that happening would depend on your opinion of peak oil! Yeah, but…Why are you getting upset about these substances? While no doubt there’s nothing like fresh squeezed OJ, I get the organic juice from Whole Foods with one ingredient- orange juice- not from concentrate. Not sure when this endless hunger for money is going to end. Processed food is processed food. For those who don’t understand why people ‘freak out’ about ‘natural flavors’ in drinks, think about it from this point of view . Occasions where the FDA has sold out the American public for it’s own agendas. After all, that’s the healthier kind, right? In all seriousness, thank you for the post. and …, Here is a very very scary Concept that people did not know about Orange Julius drinks as I will give you a couple of diffrent facts but the one right now. Some have no choice but to indulge in processed FDA poison just to have food in their stomach. The only thing that I have against your approach is that you are falling into the fallacy that if it’s natural it has to be better. The scariest thing is that since natural flavor is new to the market there aren’t any regulations on it, so in some cases they may be even more dangerous than artificial flavors. We can’t. Grass-fed beef contains higher levels of vitamins A and D3, and a higher proportion of CLA in it’s fat. Another example: dimethylpolysiloxane. This was difficult to figure out at first because i can eat oranges all day long without a problem, but I react to products called “100% Orange Juice” which do contain these “natural flavors” but do not mention it on their labels. Informing people is all good, but at the end of the day we all follow the same motto: ignorance is bliss. >> “All a business cares about is money. 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